on strength new england g strengthening gun laws in this country? >> it's a tough issue. they look at them from a cultural perspective, grown up with them, gone hunting, much more sensitive than urban democrats who don't have the same kind of experience. that being said, you know, the newtown massacre changed everything for everybody. >> did it? >> i think so. >> it seemed like it did, you know, a few days and a few weeks after, but now it seems perhaps. >> the question is, and this is where i think -- i think people will be disappointed, how far do we go, and i think there is some momentum, and i put that in quotation marks, toward criminal background checks, everyone realizes it doesn't make sense, if you buy a gun one place, you have a criminal background check, and if you buy one another place, you don't. in terms of expanding that to magazines and assault weapons bans, it becomes much more complicated for not only rural democrats, but in particular for republicans. >> can president obama change minds on this?